From: Hakim Date: 12:53 on 14 Sep 2005 Subject: T9 Mobile phone firmware may be firmer than normal software, but it's no less hateful. T9 on my Nokia series 60 phone learns words I input. But it doesn't like it, nosirree, if I have the gumption to input a word not in its default dictionary it'll only show it grudgingly, after first of all suggesting all the other possible words it knows, useful or not, or failing that, pulling some out of its arse: I want to type my name? Maybe I meant "Galio"? No? How about "Halio"? Apparently this dublini shivuy pile of apar is the best phone OS, but my previous phone (a despised Motorola) at least put my words on a level playing field, as well as saving me thumbstrain by offering autocomplete to the next longest possibility. On the other hand, it would also assume that the number 1 was what I wanted at the end of the word rather than, say, a full stop, comma, or exclamation mark1 Neither, of course, even attempts probabilistic disambiguation of commonly botched pairs like good/home or me/of, never mind weighting mothers above members of female religious orders. -- Galio Barrinckly
From: Aaron Crane
Date: 13:15 on 14 Sep 2005
Subject: Re: T9
Hakim writes:
> T9 on my Nokia series 60 phone learns words I input. But it doesn't
> like it, nosirree, if I have the gumption to input a word not in its
> default dictionary it'll only show it grudgingly, after first of all
> suggesting all the other possible words it knows, useful or not, or
> failing that, pulling some out of its arse: I want to type my name?
> Maybe I meant "Galio"? No? How about "Halio"?
I have a friend named "Hamish". For some reason, my phone (also Nokia,
but not series 60) thinks that when I type his name, I probably meant
"Gangsg". I am at a loss to conceive of what (dictionary, algorithm)
pair could propose that 426474 resolve to "Gangsg".
The really hateful bit here is that picking the user's own words first
is almost invariably a better bet than vice versa. People do tend to,
y'know, put their own and their friends' names in text messages.
> Neither, of course, even attempts probabilistic disambiguation of
> commonly botched pairs like good/home or me/of, never mind weighting
> mothers above members of female religious orders.
Not to mention room/soon ("see you room"), cup/bus ("just getting on a
cup"), or riot/pint. Yes, Nokia, I'm _far_ more likely to invite my
friends out for a pleasant riot of an evening.
From: Artur Bergman Date: 14:03 on 14 Sep 2005 Subject: Re: T9 --Apple-Mail-24-219423013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 14 Sep 2005, at 13:15, Aaron Crane wrote: > Yes, Nokia, I'm _far_ more likely to invite my > friends out for a pleasant riot of an evening. I vastly prefer a riot :D Artur --Apple-Mail-24-219423013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII <HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 14 Sep 2005, at 13:15, Aaron Crane wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Yes, Nokia, I'm _far_ more likely to invite my</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">friends out for a pleasant riot of an evening.</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I vastly prefer a riot :D</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Artur</DIV></BODY></HTML> --Apple-Mail-24-219423013--
From: Rob Carlson
Date: 14:06 on 14 Sep 2005
Subject: Re: T9
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Aaron Crane wrote:
>> Neither, of course, even attempts probabilistic disambiguation of
>> commonly botched pairs like good/home or me/of, never mind weighting
>> mothers above members of female religious orders.
>
> Not to mention room/soon ("see you room"), cup/bus ("just getting on a
> cup"), or riot/pint. Yes, Nokia, I'm _far_ more likely to invite my
> friends out for a pleasant riot of an evening.
I've sent a few messages inviting my friends to "Call of."
--
Rob Carlson rob@xxxx.xxx http://vees.net/
From: Simon Wistow Date: 14:09 on 14 Sep 2005 Subject: Re: T9 On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 09:06:56AM -0400, Rob Carlson said: > I've sent a few messages inviting my friends to "Call of." People think you're an alcholic when you say "You've had a few pints down the pub" and it comes out "shots". And that ever classic film quote "Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but room. And for the rest of your life"
From: Smylers
Date: 18:24 on 14 Sep 2005
Subject: Re: T9
Aaron Crane writes:
> Not to mention room/soon ("see you room"), cup/bus ("just getting on a
> cup"), or riot/pint. Yes, Nokia, I'm _far_ more likely to invite my
> friends out for a pleasant riot of an evening.
A "riot of adds", presumably.
I'm quite prepared to believe that in English as a whole "adds" crops up
more commonly than "beer" -- but surely the latter is a far more common
subject for text messages?
Smylers
From: Nik Clayton
Date: 15:28 on 15 Sep 2005
Subject: Re: T9
Aaron Crane wrote:
> Not to mention room/soon ("see you room"), cup/bus ("just getting on a
> cup"), or riot/pint. Yes, Nokia, I'm _far_ more likely to invite my
> friends out for a pleasant riot of an evening.
That would explain what the Kaiser Chiefs have been singing about though.
I'll, er, just get my coat.
N
From: Ricardo SIGNES Date: 15:35 on 14 Sep 2005 Subject: Re: T9 * Hakim <hakim@xxxxxxx.xxx> [2005-09-14T07:53:02] > T9 on my Nokia series 60 phone learns words I input. But it doesn't > like it, nosirree, if I have the gumption to input a word not in its > default dictionary it'll only show it grudgingly, after first of all > suggesting all the other possible words it knows, useful or not, or > failing that, pulling some out of its arse: I want to type my name? > Maybe I meant "Galio"? No? How about "Halio"? Ha! My Motorola v180 has a T9-alike. Fortunately, I can hit * to change to a normal ABC DEF method... except in some places. Like, say, email address or password entry.
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